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May 28, 2009


Bill Clinton on George W. Bush, New York Times, May 28, 2009:

Clinton's relationship with the younger Bush evolved over the years...Clinton and George W. Bush agreed to appear onstage together in Toronto on May 29 for a 90-minute discussion of current events.

"You know, I'm a Baptist," Clinton explained. "We don't give up on anybody. We believe in deathbed conversions."

Bill Clinton on Saddam Hussein, New York Times, January 14, 1993:

Mr. Clinton made clear that he certainly did not view Mr. Hussein as the ideal ruler of Iraq, but that he also did not see him as a irredeemable foe of the United States, who had to be destroyed no matter what...

"I always tell everybody I am a Baptist. I believe in death-bed conversions."

—Jonathan Schwarz

Posted at May 28, 2009 03:25 AM

I wonder if "end of a rope conversions" count as the same thing.

Posted by: Mike Meyer at May 28, 2009 09:53 AM

Clinton backed off of that statement on Hussein pretty quickly, condemning Iraqis to another decade of devastating economic sanctions, and almost assuring the eventual invasion: -- all part of the reason we much work doublely hard now to change course of Obama administration -- if not already too late...

Posted by: osama -- err -- sam at May 28, 2009 11:07 AM

Well, he didn't say anything about not forcing people onto their death-beds so that they could convert.

Posted by: darrelplant at May 28, 2009 11:19 AM

And Bush replied, "I'm a Baptist too. I believe in death."

Posted by: SteveB at May 28, 2009 02:20 PM

gosh i hope dave broder is there to moderate that potential mortal struggle

Posted by: hapa at May 28, 2009 04:59 PM

I thought this, from the same article, was a little more honest:

"Clinton said he likes picking out gifts for his friends’ wives and girlfriends."

Posted by: Not Exactly at May 28, 2009 06:45 PM

I'm reminded of that scene in The Survivors where Jerry Reed says

"I was raised a strict Southern Baptist and place a very high premium on human life. Ten thousand. Minimum."

and then we learn that he's a hitman.

Posted by: Jonathan Versen at May 28, 2009 08:12 PM

Not that Saddam died in anything resembling a bed, of course.

Posted by: Crawford Tillinghast at May 29, 2009 01:27 AM

Crawford Tillinghart: Saddam looked to me to be the ONLY one at his hanging that was not having a religious experience. EVERY one else in the room was jerking with the fits.

Posted by: Mike Meyer at May 29, 2009 01:58 AM

I am also a Baptist. I believe that if you pour enough water on someone's head, they'll start seeing things your way.

Posted by: Dumbya at May 29, 2009 02:09 AM

I guess if Bill Clinton says he's not giving up on you, you ought to be worried.

Posted by: M.C. Squared at May 29, 2009 04:47 PM

"Clinton said he likes picking out gifts for his friends’ wives and girlfriends."

That is the funniest thing I've read on this blog for a while!

Posted by: saurabh at May 30, 2009 01:39 AM

What is Clinton really saying?

"I'm moral and he's not, but there's always a chance he will change and be as good as me."

I rest my case.

Posted by: Don Bacon at May 30, 2009 11:30 AM

Ah, so that explains why Bill Clinton agreed to a joint public appearance with George W. Bush depicted in that large, sickening photograph featured on the front page of Saturday's New York Times (05/30/2009).

Missionary Bill (excuse the expression) was simply not giving up on George W. Bush and hoping for a deathbed conversion from war criminal to whatever Bill Clinton imagines himself to be now.

That and the $150,000 a piece Bill and George picked up for letting an adoring corporate audience gawk at two US ex-presidents backing each other up on wars of aggression and genocides.

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