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July 04, 2007

Happy July 4th?

Any attempt to impeach George Bush and/or Dick Cheney would obviously need the support of Rep. John Conyers, given that he's Chairman of the Judiciary Committee. (If you've forgotten since the exciting days of the Clenis, articles of impeachment are considered in the Judiciary Committee first, and then if approved go to the full House for a vote. If a majority support any of the articles, the official is impeached—the equivalent of an indictment. The articles are then sent to the Senate, where a two-thirds majority is needed to convict and remove the official from office. Nixon never even made it to impeachment; just having three articles of impeachment approved by the Judiciary Committee was enough to get him to resign.)

But frustratingly for those (of us) who believe we desperately need to ITMFA, Conyers has been unwilling to come out in favor of impeachment. Whether this has been because of pressure from the Congressional leadership or reasons of his own, it's meant that impeachment has been essentially dead in the water. By contrast, if Conyers changed his mind, it would make impeachment a serious possibility.

So...I'm pleased to pass along this absolutely completely unverified rumor from the comments section of DailyKos yesterday morning. I doubt this is accurate, and in any case we'll probably know one way or another for sure tomorrow. But given this country was founded in a burst of possibly unwarranted optimism about human capability, I don't see any harm in believing this for at least a few hours:

I'm not sure if this is correct place, but the aide I just spoke to in Congressman Conyer's office told me that Rep. Conyers is now in support for Impeachment.

I asked her what Rep. Conyers' stance is concerning Impeachment of president george w. bush and vice president richard b. cheney and she said and I'm quoting:

"Congressman Conyers supports Impeachment of the President and Vice-President."

I'm not sure if this is going to actually mean anything, but this is what I was just told by Conyers' office less than 5 minutes ago.

I also asked her if I could quote her and she said "yes". Let us hope this is a good sign.

Happy July 4th!

Posted at July 4, 2007 08:46 PM | TrackBack

we had a little impeachment protest on the 4th in my town, and the nice police showed up to join us! well, okay, they didn't exactly join us, but they did give me some new ideas for driving routes in my town..... pictures at --

Posted by: Susan at July 4, 2007 11:38 PM



Please let it be true!

Posted by: stupidbaby at July 5, 2007 12:42 AM

Though I am sure Bush deserves to be impeached as does almost all of congress what I would rather see is congress forcing Bush to end the occupation of Iraq, do away with Homeland Security and all the other numerous atrocities as well as preventing a war with Iran but we know none of this will happen. Impeaching Bush would probably accomplish very little so I am not sure why this would actually prove that our government is actually working correctly without the other things I mentioned. Impeaching Bush would not stop the killing.

Posted by: rob payne at July 5, 2007 02:18 AM

One of the articles would definitely concern the WMD lies and falsification of intelligence, as well as the Scooter-commutation-conspiracy-to-obstruct-justice affair. That would discredit the war, and end it. I doubt the Democrats have the nards for it though.

Posted by: Polonius_210 at July 5, 2007 09:49 AM

rob payne: IPEACHMENT would stop Bush. He's not done yet. Think about it.

Posted by: Mike Meyer at July 5, 2007 12:19 PM

Rob Payne makes a good point; impeachment would take a lot of time and energy, and may not solve any current problems. However, by not impeaching we are setting a standard for what will be considered acceptable in the future. The American people must make a statement to other politicians about what they will tolerate.

Even more important in my book, is that we let the Iraqis and the rest of the world know that they can count on us to make mature decisions and rectify our mistakes. Standing on the sidelines tut tutting is not enough.

Posted by: new day at July 5, 2007 01:22 PM

Did this turn out true, by the way?

Posted by: StO at July 7, 2007 12:31 PM