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May 19, 2007

Ron Paul Discussed On The View

Apparently Ron Paul has ripped a hole in the fabric of reality, and we've fallen through into another dimension in which U.S. foreign policy is debated on national daytime television.

Pretty amazing. I like this universe much more than the old one.

Posted at May 19, 2007 05:22 PM | TrackBack

Argh - I was really interested in hearing that blonde articulate her viewpoint to the end, but the others kept sideswiping her and objecting to her use of the word 'terrorist' - huh? That was good stuff. Okay, 'Policy should always be reevaluated' - so what price do we pay for supporting the Shah of Iran? Does that even live in our memory?

Posted by: saurabh at May 19, 2007 06:09 PM

I like this universe better than the other one as well. I wish the news media would stop ridiculing people like Mike Gravel and Ron Paul because even though they may not have a chance of winning a nomination they certainly seem to open the debate up to something more akin to reality than the mainstream candidates, at least as far as Iraq is concerned. My only regret is that this always happens after the damage has already occurred as in the destruction of a country, maybe two countries.

Posted by: rob payne at May 19, 2007 06:47 PM

Hmm, I don't know if I like this universe so much. President Chomsky's speeches are so depressing! Plus, my left pinky finger occasionally dematerializes.

However, I should stop bitching. Friends tell me there's another, much more frightening universe in which the women of 'The View' actually invite experts to discuss Middle East policy.

And most terrifying of all: the universe in which they invite actual people from the actual Middle East to discuss, you know, what we're doing in the Middle East.

Let's all get out our space needles and sew up the tear in the fabric of the universe before we get there...

Posted by: Andrew at May 19, 2007 07:11 PM

That the Mossadegh coup is mentioned on The View does lead me too to think that we are living in an alternate universe. Thanks for pointing it out.

Posted by: Clint at May 19, 2007 07:11 PM

I do not have a television in my universe.

Holy Crap! Is this considered reasoned debate?

Who are these people? Who watches this crap?

I could not even watch the entire clip.

If this is considered reasoned debate we are doomed.

It does explain George Bush, however.

Posted by: Colorado Dave at May 19, 2007 08:35 PM

Holy Crap! Is this considered reasoned debate?

Yes, it was barely human gibberish. But what's amazing is that the subject was broached at all.

Posted by: Jonathan Schwarz at May 19, 2007 08:56 PM

that's amazing. some credit to barbara walters for creating a forum in front of everybody where a group of television-women (different from real-women) could have a fight about event-driven politics without a television-boy giving them permission.

the pregnant lady -- does she have military relatives? does anybody know?

Posted by: hibiscus at May 19, 2007 09:51 PM

Unfortunately, this new universe is still populated by the cosmically tragic personage of Elizabeth Hasselbeck who houses a mind impervious to reason in a distractingly attractive exterior.

Posted by: Steve at May 20, 2007 12:42 AM

This made my head hurt.

Posted by: Dennis Perrin at May 20, 2007 01:00 AM

Elizabeth too needs a Giuliani History Lesson by Dwight Eisenhower's Secretary of Agricultre, and Dr. W. Cleon Skousen. Too many American's have recieved their propaganda imposed history from corrupted, censored textbooks covering up treason from within the American Republic.

Ron Paul has widespread popular support.

As a lifelong Republican, I've found the Republican Party Establishment at the top (not the grass roots) sell us out. Alan Keyes who ran in 1996, and 2000 was awesome. However, in 1996 the GOP traitors had him arrested when he arrived at one Debate, the debate went on without him. No charges, for he was innocent, but merely a stall tactic to keep him out of view until the debate ended. Alan Keyes was speaking the traditional platform of abolishing the Marxist graudated income tax and the Federal Reserve.

You sorry suckers who think that G. W. Bush is conservative are idiots. True Conservatives find Ron Paul the man who stands with the platform---and more importantly the US Constitution---with not one other candidate of either party remotly coming close to him.

Perhaps you should Join Rudy Giuliani in a history Lesson from Dwight Eisenhower's Secretary of Agriculture (who today Sean Hannity and other non-conservatives would love to smear), as well as Dr. W. Cleon Skousen, best selling author, and true conservative, of "The Naked Communist and "The Naked Capitalist."

Posted by: AwakeAndAriseOrg at May 20, 2007 02:01 AM

I felt that none of them, except for the woman on the right, supported the troops. I was surprised the woman on the right didn't mentioned that.

Posted by: abb1 at May 20, 2007 05:12 AM

The debate moderators react to Paul like a reality show host would react to a top female athlete competitor among a bunch of ditzy bikini models who the producers want to be the 'stars'.

"Well, let's see how our contestants are doing on the 50' wall. And... joanne's over in 5 seconds (yawn), now let's see how the Minkleplotz Triplets are doing! Have they figured out which way is up yet? Hey Chad, while they're climbing, can you get them to put their arms over their heads and smile for the camera?"

Posted by: Jon H at May 20, 2007 09:43 AM

Dennis - it made your head hurt (and mine too) only because it's The View.

Posted by: Alex at May 20, 2007 01:49 PM

That is how most political discussions in real life are conducted, I think, unless everyone is in agreement. People talk over each other and with righties like the blonde woman, you have to explain everything very carefully or they think you are defending terrorism. They have only a vague sense about facts regarding US foreign policy that lefties take for granted.

In theory, the written word is much better, or could be, except that the MSM won't allow principled anti-imperialists to make their case in their pages.

Posted by: Donald Johnson at May 20, 2007 02:56 PM

Teh stupid, it burns!

Posted by: buermann at May 20, 2007 04:39 PM

I'm curious as to why it seems that on TV, the Neocon apologists always seem to be blonde-haired, blue-eyed Aryans of some sort?
......I know, I should be more scared of the invisible, all-seeing, omnipresent and horrific......
wait, I mean

Posted by: joe mama at May 20, 2007 06:39 PM

Colorado Dave said it all for me.

Who are these obnoxious people shouting at each other?

If this is what passes for 'debate' on American TV, I'm glad I turned mine off for good years ago!

Posted by: Nick in Florida at May 20, 2007 09:25 PM

The Republican Party has itself to blame for its' disintergration aWAKE AND aRISE.

They sould've thought twice before throwing out their liberal wing simply because they wanted women to vote. (Dems still have conservative wing).

They should've thought twice before trying to mimmick the far more older, experienced and corrupted Democratic Party.

They should've thought twice before becoming facist apologists.

They should've thought twice before they invested in the Bolsheviks and Nazis'.

They should've thought twice before they constructed the Corporate State and MIC. They did this by the way, to enslave the working class.

Hell, they should've thought about SOMETHING other than their own coffers, but I suppose that goes for anyone in politics.

Posted by: at May 21, 2007 09:45 AM

Holy shit, that blonde is god-awful stupid.

"Are you calling me a fool?" Shyeeeah. Given that you can't reason your way out of a paper bag. Jesus, where do they find these people?

Posted by: Michael at May 22, 2007 01:17 AM