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November 08, 2006

Time To Prove Dick Cheney Right For The First Time In His Entire Life

Rumsfeld out.

Let's now remember this section from Bob Woodward's book State of Denial:

[Andrew] Card kept pushing, at one point raising the possibility of change at the Pentagon with Vice President Cheney.

No, Cheney said, he was predisposed to recommend that the president keep Rumsfeld right where he was. Card was not surprised.

In private conversations with Bush, Cheney said Rumsfeld's departure, no matter how it might be spun, would be seen only as an expression of doubt and hesitation on the war. It would give the war critics great heart and momentum, he confided to an aide, and soon they would be after him and then the president. He virtually insisted that Rumsfeld stay.

Posted at November 8, 2006 01:08 PM | TrackBack

Oh wow. Thought I'd share. Stunning news.

"Yesterday’s midterm elections results represent a victory for all grassroots activists working to hold the U.S. Congress accountable for failed policies and misplaced priorities. Over 20 of our opponents of the June 2006 amendment have lost their seats in the House surpassing the 15 vote margin we need to win a vote in Congress. With this new and more favorable Congress, we expect a successful vote on the SOA/ WHINSEC. The next few months will be a crucial time for SOA Watch as we work to connect with these new Members of Congress, educate them about this important issue, and urge them to support closure of the school."

From an e-mail I just received from the SOA Watch

Posted by: Jesus B. Ochoa at November 8, 2006 01:38 PM

So wait, if I'm reading this right, Bush and Cheney will be the next to resign?

Great news about SOA. Hope they get that vote (and that the administration doesn't secretly open up another one at some undisclosed location--maybe that's what that land in Paraguay will be used for?)

Posted by: Jean at November 8, 2006 01:56 PM

Bush was joking when he said he'd be fine with just Laura and Barney by his side.

The neocons stabbed him in the back (cowards are known for doing that sort of thing).

Now who brought the neocons to the dance? CHENEY!
Cheney is toast.

Remember you read it here first.

Posted by: Bernard Chazelle at November 8, 2006 03:41 PM

The neocons were very careful to NOT talk about Cheney during their recent turns towards the neo-libs. Understandable, given that Cheney has his own Sonderstaffel. When you plant the knife, it has to count, and I hope Cheney's pre-sentiments prove literally correct. (It would be too much to expect it to get to Bush hisself.)

Posted by: MarcLord at November 8, 2006 05:26 PM

Constitutionally (not that that matters lately), could Bush fire Cheney even if Cheney ordered him to? He, like Bush, was chosen by a large minority of American voters along with some well-placed creative voting machines. Does Bush have any right to override that?

Posted by: Bob at November 8, 2006 05:31 PM

I have believed every since the neo cons fixed the first election in 2000, that eventually the
American people would come out of the ether.

What is sad is we have lost so many of our troops
and murdered so many Iraq's in the process.

My hope is that the Demo's with the aide of the
Independents will not seek impeachment, but
instead declassify all the intelligence that led
up to the Illegal invasion of Iraq.

The excuses given as to deposing Sadam and WMDs
were false. The Invasion was Against our own
Constitutional Laws. So if carefully examined
and planned we should be able to Indict All who
were involved in the fabricating the reasons
to go to War.

This would be cause to turn these evil people
over to the World Court.

Posted by: Clyde Preston at November 8, 2006 06:03 PM

Even though I consider this "sacking" good news, I'm not breaking out the champagne yet. My skeptical nature in inclined to believe Gates will just be a new face on a continued failed policy.

Posted by: Ben Stein at November 8, 2006 07:48 PM

Wasn't Spiro Agnew essentially fired?

Posted by: Saheli at November 9, 2006 12:08 AM

Let's say we go through the wild ass scenario here.

Dick is Fired/Vacates. Bush is then impeached, this brings Nancy Pelosi into the white house? Unless of course something happens to Dick and W before the new congress in January...

In which case since Hastert has resigned who would be the new speaker and therefore the president? Would that be one of the six people on Hastert's sealed list of replacements or would it be a new speaker?

I guess I would monitor the intrade Cheney resigns Dec06 contract to see if there are any sign of this happening. Currently at 8%, so it seems unlikely.

Posted by: patience at November 9, 2006 12:38 AM

BTW there's also an intrade Iran airstrikes contract which looks equally unlikely. Its at 20% for a strike by DEC07.

Both the Dick and Iran contracts can be found in the intrade current events contract area.

Posted by: patience at November 9, 2006 12:40 AM

Rumsfeld (spit!) is but one tentacle of the hydra.

Posted by: abraham at November 9, 2006 01:48 AM

No, Saheli, Spiro was essentially convicted of tax fraud and put in prison where all of Nixxon's cohorts should have gone including the Boss himself.

The real question is: "When will Rumsfield be given the Presidential Merit award (or some such nonsense) and placed as the head of the World Bank ala Robert MacNamara?"

Incompetence is always rewarded with the most lucrative private sector positions and Rummie will be referred to as 'a great statesman' in the future.

In the profound words of Thomas B. Reed: "A statesman is a politician who is dead." Hopefully the entire Bush administration and all of their supporters become 'great statesmen' very, very soon!

Posted by: JLaR at November 9, 2006 04:18 AM

"n which case since Hastert has resigned who would be the new speaker and therefore the president? Would that be one of the six people on Hastert's sealed list of replacements or would it be a new speaker?"

Neither. The line of succession runs 17 deep! A recent picture:
# Name Position
1 Richard B. Cheney Vice President
2 Dennis Hastert * Speaker of the House of Representatives
3 Ted Stevens * President pro tempore of the Senate
4 Condoleezza Rice Secretary of State
5 Henry M. Paulson, Jr. Secretary of the Treasury
6 Donald H. Rumsfeld ** Secretary of Defense
7 Alberto Gonzales Attorney General
8 Dirk Kempthorne Secretary of the Interior
9 Mike Johanns Secretary of Agriculture
Carlos Gutierrez
(ineligible; not a natural-born citizen)† Secretary of Commerce
Elaine Chao
(ineligible; not a natural-born citizen)† Secretary of Labor
10 Michael Leavitt Secretary of Health and Human Services
11 Alphonso Jackson Secretary of Housing and Urban Development
12 Mary Peters Secretary of Transportation
13 Samuel W. Bodman Secretary of Energy
14 Margaret Spellings Secretary of Education
15 Jim Nicholson Secretary of Veterans Affairs

Posted by: Gene Callahan at November 9, 2006 08:03 AM

So let me get this straight. If King George and Cardinal Richard are ousted after the newbies take office, then Nancy Pelosi and Richard Byrd will take the places of Fatboy Dennis and Ted 'Crazier Than Bundy' Stevens.

I would put money on old 'DT' Dickie being really pissed off that some skirt will be president before him! I can't help myself for being perverse, but every time I see him on C-span it always reminds me of an old Who song: "Maryanne with the shaky hands. What she does to a man with those shaky hands!!!"

Posted by: JLaR at November 9, 2006 08:52 AM

Rumsfeld will be remembered as the best Defense Secretary since Robert McNamara.

Posted by: Jon Swift at November 9, 2006 11:58 AM

Having heard Howard Dean say the Democrats have nothing on the table for impeachment in fact he was almost adamant in repeating that NO impeachment is on the table. WHY ????? There is a great deal that needs to be scrutinized, I beleive it should be at the Hague. This administration has caused serious global terrorrism and that must not be overlooked,if it were some other country and it's government the citizens of the U.S. would demand justice.

Posted by: Terri Robson at November 9, 2006 05:35 PM

Until we get rid of all the devils.. The American people shouldn't rest. The Dems Win is just a scratch on the surface. Ther e s more work to be done. So lets keep this blog open and push forward.

Posted by: at November 9, 2006 09:27 PM