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April 04, 2006

The White Man's Burden Seems Particularly Heavy Today

Tom Tomorrow, via Doc Strangelove, has discovered a compelling interview with JV neocon Daniel Pipes:

Q: What is the biggest lesson you have learned from the Iraq war?

PIPES: The ingratitude of the Iraqis for the extraordinary favor we gave them.

Yes, the ingratitude of the wogs is legendary. Henry Morton Stanley knew this. Here's what he wrote about his 190 African servants on his 1871 trip to find Dr. Livingstone:

"The blacks give me an immense amount of trouble; they are too ungrateful to suit my fancy."

Also like Iraqis, Stanley’s servants had a tendency to die in copious, ungrateful quantities.

FURTHERMORE: Seymour Hersh:

The Patai book ["The Arab Mind"], an academic told me, was “the bible of the neocons on Arab behavior.” In their discussions, he said, two themes emerged—“one, that Arabs only understand force...

Henry Morton Stanley:

"The savage only respects force, power, boldness, and decision..."
Posted at April 4, 2006 12:49 PM | TrackBack

Here's a link to to probably the orginal reference to the white man's burden, a poem by Rudyard Kipling:

Posted by: Steve Timmer at April 4, 2006 01:45 PM

Try again. The original reference to the White Man's burden appears in the Book of Genesis.


Posted by: Sully at April 4, 2006 03:05 PM

The White Man's Burden grows apace as those pesky Latinos, in an exhuberant display of bad manners, are piling on the Man's back to the beat of an overworked (and naturally, unerpaid) Mariachi group.

Posted by: Jesus B. Ochoa at April 4, 2006 03:13 PM

I suppose the mission creep in Iraq has drifted to "Civilizing the Savage" with Democracy. Isn't Iraq the cradle of civilization? This in NOT something I want to spend my money on.

Posted by: Mike Meyer at April 4, 2006 06:27 PM

Vis a vis North Korea Vs Iraq...The USA only respects nuclear weapons up it's coit?

Posted by: GreginOz at April 4, 2006 08:55 PM

It's not native to the White Man alone.

My dad has a business partner who used to own contract factories in Lesotho and S.Africa for GAP, I went for a dinner with him in Shanghai and when asked about Africans, he too could only say that Africans were "too wild"...

Posted by: En Ming Hee at April 4, 2006 08:57 PM

en, that's the white man's burden transferred to the chinaman. it's also been transferred to the brown man(india) and the black man(in africa!)

it's a pretty hideous reminder of colonial times, and a measure of how heavy the white man's (mental)burden really is

Posted by: almostinfamous at April 5, 2006 12:03 AM

This is the jewish man's burden.
Pipes: Ayn-Randite Zionist supremacist.

European peoples are an innocent duped party. Except for jewish converts who have taken the skull and bones blood oath such as Bush.

Posted by: Black war Metal at April 5, 2006 12:39 PM

Jon, would you cut that out? Posting lunatic comments under stupid names will NOT get you on "The West Wing." Atrios is just quicker on the draw, and you have to get used to that.

Posted by: Sully at April 5, 2006 04:28 PM


I hope it doesn't make you uncomfortable when I reveal that every comment on this site except yours has been me posting under assumed names.

As for my alter-ego "Black war Metal," just be grateful the world's youthful energy that once went into building fascism has now been diverted into Norwegian death metal bands.

Posted by: Jonathan Schwarz at April 5, 2006 06:52 PM