Comments: "We Are Dead People Who Are Still Breathing"

Luck runs out standing IN FRONT of tanks. Chances get better to the side (flank) or even to the rear, far away is even better. WE did these same things taking Baghdad.

Posted by Mike Meyer at January 8, 2009 10:49 PM

Jeez. Should I, perhaps, go stand in front of a tank in Gaza? I think I'm a coward.

Posted by saurabh at January 9, 2009 12:56 AM

Also, let's not excuse ourselves from this episode; WE are doing these same things here, insofar as we've been arming and funding Israel for decades. Those helicopters didn't grow on olive trees, you know.

Posted by saurabh at January 9, 2009 01:01 AM

Americans are the ones who are dead but still breathe. In a completely different and opposite sense, of course.

Posted by Baldie McEagle at January 9, 2009 09:30 AM

hv: Pay YOUR TAXES, do ya? Make ANY effort to withdraw financial support of this Israeli/Palestinian conflict? THIS ONE benefits the USA, this has "BOMB IRAN" stamped on the front page. Financing war crimes=engagement in war crimes. WE STOOD SILENT for 8 years while George and Dick murdered and stole everything they could, WE DID NOTHING. This Gaza situation is just the icing on the cake, George and Dick's "Kiss Farewell". (they dropped the other shoe is all and it fell on Gaza)

Posted by Mike Meyer at January 9, 2009 11:54 AM

Mike,

First, I'm not American. I'm Canadian. And I recognize that despite its false reputation as some "leftist/liberal" paradise, the Canadian elite sector is just as racist, corrupt, and vicious as its American counterpart (really, the only thing separating America from any other Western country behaving the same way is opportunity, military power and economic success), as are vast segments of the Canadian public, and that Canada belongs to the same clique of Western imperialist global power structures and domination of the planet, and that Canada has not an unimportant role as a loyal boot-licker to enable the American empire's goals, in Afghanistan, for example.

Secondly, you're delusional if you think this has anything to do with Bush, or even the Republican party. America has given Israel carte-blanche to do as it wishes for a long time now. Both the Republican party and the Democratic party are staunchly pro-Israel, and in fact, the Democratic party has traditionally and historically been the more pro-Israel one because of the greater presence of American Jews in that party, as the American Jewish population were historically more progressive when they were more on the margins of Americans society and were not exactly welcome in the Republican party, which used to have strong strains of overt anti-Semitism, among other racist sentiments. This is course is not the case now, and the unconditional, pro-Israel sentiment is now strong in both political parties.

Posted by hv at January 9, 2009 12:22 PM

hv: SORRY, I cannot see much if any Canadian involvement in this matter. MY Apologies, please.

Posted by Mike Meyer at January 9, 2009 01:21 PM

SteveB: Huh, interesting. There are certainly plenty of people who read the Times under protest so some of it is likely them sending it on, but hopefully it was news to some people as well.

(Liberal engagement with the Times is like liberal engagement with the Democrats in a lot of ways; it may seem like a marriage of convenience, but it takes a constant effort to remember just what a tricky, lying bastard your mate really is. An article so contrary to the standard line is a good reminder.)

Baldie McEagle: That's absolutely true—I thought it at the time and have many times since. In fact it's so true that it's worth another posting, which I may put up here as well.

Posted by John Caruso at January 9, 2009 05:36 PM