Comments: Our Creepy America

These guys just can't wait to be in charge of the military. It is creepy. What is wrong with them? Any theories on this?

Posted by cemmcs at November 1, 2008 10:16 PM

Biden is a moron but if you want to worry about something worry about this—

"Mark my words," the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. "It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy."

"And he's gonna need help. And the kind of help he's gonna need is, he's gonna need you - not financially to help him - we're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not gonna be apparent initially, it's not gonna be apparent that we're right."

--Biden

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1127272/joe_biden_were_gonna_have_an_international.html


Via Justin Raimondo

http://antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=13698

So what do you think Biden means with this astonishing statement? Interesting that Biden makes a point about “not financially” which is what Bush said before the Iraq War about the Iraq War and look at us now. Raimondo has much more to say on this, worth a read.

Posted by Rob Payne at November 1, 2008 11:07 PM

I will follow my Commander in Chief, if he calls me, to kick some Belgian ass in the fields of Flanders. Very good killing grounds.
What do you want him called? GROEFAZ? Groesster Feldherr aller Zeiten? OK. Siegt mal schoen.

Posted by donescobar at November 2, 2008 02:33 AM

After Tuesday, I think I'll stick with the traditional President-elect. On Jan. 20 I'll occasionally refer to him as the president of out protocol. However, since the president is also commander-in-chief of the military, of which I am not a member, I can't foresee any reason for me to
call him that.

Posted by Paul Avery at November 2, 2008 04:44 AM

Still, "Commander in Chief" is a bit of a comedown from Messiah.

Posted by SteveB at November 2, 2008 12:58 PM

Messiah in Chief? God-Emperor? It's all one to the pwogwessive true believers.

Posted by AlanSmithee at November 2, 2008 03:43 PM

Blah!

Another panty waisted sissyhammer calling himself a fancy name. Another perfumed prince who views war as an abstraction. A curse on all their houses!

Posted by tim at November 2, 2008 08:36 PM

i fear biden may have what i call "lyndon johnson disease" -- the constant and urgent cries of "people hate us! we have to kill them now!" from the party of fear precipitating policies intended primarily to prove the administration isn't populated by "pussies."

it's one thing to calm their fears with moderately tough talk but it's something else entirely to adopt ill-conceived rhetoric into actual thinking.

i trust that president obama will have better sense.

Posted by karen marie at November 2, 2008 08:51 PM

I'm SURE Obama will find plrenty of enemies to defend US against, except he, himself, won't be picking up a rifle to do it. Someone else will.

Posted by Mike Meyer at November 3, 2008 01:06 AM

Thanks for raising this important matter. Some may say it is "just words", but words have power.

It is a disgrace that so many Americans think that the term "commander-in-chief" is synonymous with "president". Such an expression is more typical of some tinpot dictatorship than of a democratic republic.

It is reminiscent of "Fuhrer" or "Duce", but even more of the title arrogated to himself by the contemptible Rafael Trujillo "Benefactor of the Nation". (Mussolini's close associates still addressed him as "Presidente" since his claim to power was that he was the duly appointed President of the Council of Ministers -- a title he felt smacked too much of "first among equals" for one such as he.)

I think it must have been Alexander "I'm in control" Haig who first used this expression when Nixon "ordered" him to dispose of several high officials in the Justice Department, not long before he was run out of office. Haig simply said "when my commander-in-chief gives me an order, I have to obey him" (or words to that effect).

Never did Abraham Lincoln, Woodrow Wilson. or FDR use this title as substitute for the honourable title conferred upon them by their fellow citizens. that of President. It was only the criminals Nixon and Bush who hid behind it, puffing themselves up to forestall criticism and to win the blind support of people who long for a National Warlord to dominate them.

When Napoleon, the First Consul of the French Republic, took the title of "Emperor", Ludwig van Beethoven crossed out his dedication of his Third Symphony to him because he understood Napoleon's action of a betrayal of the noble ideals of that republic. Let America not follow that ignoble example.

Instead, let Americans return to their constitutional tradition and remember that their president is simply the one who has been chosen to be first among equals, and that for a limited time only, after which he or she returns to the honoured status of "citizen".

Posted by Lee Zaslofsky at November 3, 2008 05:19 PM

Thanks for raising this important matter. Some may say it is "just words", but words have power.

It is a disgrace that so many Americans think that the term "commander-in-chief" is synonymous with "president". Such an expression is more typical of some tinpot dictatorship than of a democratic republic.

It is reminiscent of "Fuhrer" or "Duce", but even more of the title arrogated to himself by the contemptible Rafael Trujillo "Benefactor of the Nation". (Mussolini's close associates still addressed him as "Presidente" since his claim to power was that he was the duly appointed President of the Council of Ministers -- a title he felt smacked too much of "first among equals" for one such as he.)

I think it must have been Alexander "I'm in control" Haig who first used this expression when Nixon "ordered" him to dispose of several high officials in the Justice Department, not long before he was run out of office. Haig simply said "when my commander-in-chief gives me an order, I have to obey him" (or words to that effect).

Never did Abraham Lincoln, Woodrow Wilson. or FDR use this title as substitute for the honourable title conferred upon them by their fellow citizens. that of President. It was only the criminals Nixon and Bush who hid behind it, puffing themselves up to forestall criticism and to win the blind support of people who long for a National Warlord to dominate them.

When Napoleon, the First Consul of the French Republic, took the title of "Emperor", Ludwig van Beethoven crossed out his dedication of his Third Symphony to him because he understood Napoleon's action of a betrayal of the noble ideals of that republic. Let America not follow that ignoble example.

Instead, let Americans return to their constitutional tradition and remember that their president is simply the one who has been chosen to be first among equals, and that for a limited time only, after which he or she returns to the honoured status of "citizen".

Posted by Lee Zaslofsky at November 3, 2008 05:19 PM

With you right up until that "citizen" bit at the end -- didn't some guys in France call each other Citizen So-and-so and still, y'know, behead a bunch of people?

Posted by Hyperchicken23 at November 4, 2008 03:48 AM