Comments: Georgia On My Mind

Ossetia? Sure, that place near Batavia (NY) with the funny old diner.
Meanwhile, and "more importantly" -as our ungrammatical scribes say-God has forgiven Edwards.
Is this a great country, or what?
(Latest poll: Great Country 56.2%, Or What 43.0%, Dan Quayle 0.8 %)

Posted by donescobar at August 9, 2008 01:13 PM

Thanks for the background info and I think you are right about Putin not backing down. Russia still has the second most powerful military in the world and the U.S. only attacks victims who are weaker militarily and cannot fight back like South Dakota. However, as Juan Cole pointed out having the U.S. military transporting 2,000 Georgian soldiers to fight the Russians won’t appear to be a friendly gesture on our part.

Posted by Rob Payne at August 9, 2008 01:42 PM

Ther is an excellent article in The Nation,
'Getting Georgia's War On'
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080818/ames

Posted by Rupa Shah at August 9, 2008 03:15 PM

Sorry about the error. My typing skill is atrocious.

Posted by Rupa Shah at August 9, 2008 03:19 PM

Rupa, thanks for the link. Here is another good link on the same topic.

http://www.chris-floyd.com/content/view/1579/135/

Posted by Rob Payne at August 9, 2008 03:26 PM

Please stop genocide of Ocetian nation!

Starting 1989 nationalistic fascist Georgian government tries to annihilate and expel Ocetian nation from its territory. As the result of Georgian warfare against small nations, tens thousands of Ocetian, Abhasian, Armenian and Russian people died since 1991. The scale of genocide is concealed by Georgian mass media. Brutality of Georgian fascists and freaksville torture of the local population overrode the torture of fascists during the Second World War.

Georgian mass media stir up the sickness of Georgian nation – they believe they are only people deserving life on Georgian territory, they are exclusive, elitist; other nations should move out or be killed.

At the moment the tragedy is happening – Georgians systematically shooting dead the Ocetian people in their own houses or burying under the falling homes.

Georgian fascists destroyed Ocetian settlements and town Tskhinvally – they lay even with the ground.
The number of victims buried by Georgian fire under the ruins cannot be calculated – it is amounted to thousands.
Georgians destroyed all hospitals. Medics cannot work under the fire of Georgians. People saved in underground stores do not have food, water, electricity, gas for 3 days – they cannot go out because of Georgian fire and cannot move out of town because Georgians are trying to take hold with tanks and armored vehicles of the only road from the town to tunnel controlled by Russians.

At that Georgian president insincerely is saying that he tries to make constitutional order and peace, and suggesting lefthandedly to cease fire. All his actions are aimed towards USA and NATO (he even speaks with his nation in English so that you understand him).

USA has strategic interest in region – pipeline going through Georgia. So official government of USA will never realize that Georgian president is criminal politician betrayed its nation (in fact people in Georgia do not want war), instead government of USA will support him (several hours ago a train with NATO armored machines came to Georgia).

The next victim of Georgian fascists will be Abhasian nation.

People in USA and Europe please force your politicians to stop Georgians.

Posted by Mikhail at August 9, 2008 06:25 PM

Rob, Thanks for the link.
The responsibilty for the atrocities ( in my vocabulary, wars are atrocities )being committed as a result of the new cold and hot wars ( deaths of civilians, creation of refugees and IDPs) rests squarely at OUR doorsteps. Wonder if anything will change after November elections!!!!

ps I posted the same comment earlier. Do not know where it disappeared!

Posted by Rupa Shah at August 9, 2008 06:36 PM

Rupa, I don't think things will change much, the system won't allow it.

Posted by Rob Payne at August 10, 2008 12:41 AM

I'm pretty sure the Black Sea is technically part of the Atlantic Ocean, they just need to change the name to NEWSATO. It would increase margins for the networks too! Instead of paying Charlie Gibson to read their press releases aloud, they could just do it themselves. NEWSATO: The Most Trusted Name in Public Relations.

Posted by buermann at August 10, 2008 01:22 AM

There is another twist to the story!
http://www.creative-i.info/?p=318
and the information given in the article is in the link below:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1218104239541&pagename=JPArticle/ShowFull

Posted by Rupa Shah at August 10, 2008 01:12 PM

It is erroneous to state that these events have been "triggered by Georgia." It is necessary to go back to the history of these "separatist" movements, back to 1992, 1993. After the break-up of the USSR, Russia backed rebels with arms and finances to forcibly expel the Georgian majority from South Ossetia and Abkhazia, thus creating hundreds of thousands of refugees. The UN sat back and let RUSSIAN peacekeepers have responsibility for these regions, which are part of Georgia. And now all of a sudden GEORGIA is the aggressor???

Something does not add up. Georgia is not a threat to Russia; Russia is the one who decided to meddle in affairs outside its borders and frankly has no place whatsoever Georgia's internal affairs.

Here is a blog which I believe states the history correctly and will shed some different light on this situation.

Posted by Dustin at August 11, 2008 05:51 PM