Comments: Dear U.S. Government: Please Get Your Preposterous Stories Straight


"part of a clever Iranian deception campaign..."

Part and parcel of that old Persian sense of humor. Like when Ahmadinejad pulls our leg on that Holocaust stuff. If only our best and brightest made an attemp to understand foreign cultures, including how they like to kid around.
Remember Saddam? Big, really big practical joker.

Posted by donescobar at December 5, 2007 06:33 PM

At least the Persians aren't pathological liars like we learned the Arabs are.

Posted by StO at December 5, 2007 06:36 PM

or that "we" ourselves have proven on countless occasions to have been and shall likely continue to be, when it suits "our" purposes...

Posted by konopelli/wgg at December 5, 2007 06:43 PM

AT the very least this is incompetence and neglect yet more than likely outright lying and fraud. Either way this puts US 4 to 5 years behind in OUR President's KNOWLEDGE of the Iranian situation. Looks terrible when one conciders that nearly the entire world has been saying the same thing ALL THESE YEARS. SLOW LEARNER doesn't quite cut it in the OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY. PAST TIME TO IMPEACH. (1-202-225-0100, make that call)

Posted by Mike Meyer at December 5, 2007 06:44 PM

What makes it even worse, we're such bad, really bad liars. Maybe if we learned to lie in French, we'd gain a touch of credibility. Sounds so much better, what with English being the language of shopkeepers. (Except for the very good poets.)
German: languageof obedience, order
French: of diplomacy, ie lying
Italian: love, passion
Spanish: when you speak to God

(Attributed to a Spanish king, long ago)

Posted by donescobar at December 5, 2007 07:15 PM

Those sneaky Iranians won't fool us...we'll do it ourselves!

Posted by lutton at December 5, 2007 08:27 PM

I'd guess that Cheney was the "senior member" involved in that last quote -- and wonder if he made the decision then and there to keep Bush out of the loop as long as possible just so Bush could soldier on with the WW3 case he was trying to sell. (And I'd be only slightly more surprised if Bush agreed to that; he sees his job description as 'propaganda catapulter.')

Bush may not have had the imagination to realize how stupid he'd look once/if this came out -- especially once he started answering extra questions. Cheney must've been going nuts watching it: "say exec. privilege, you fool!"

Posted by Thomas Nephew at December 5, 2007 08:53 PM

everybody but george knew. he's the black box president! so handy to have around when the lawyers come knocking.

Posted by hapa at December 5, 2007 08:57 PM

It could be worse: Bush could be intentionally ignoring intelligence to justify a military attack, taking liberties with the Constitution, overstepping the bounds of executive privilege AND prevaricating about a White House intern performing fellatio on him. Then we would really have a case for impeachment. I am not sure who said it first, but I reminded of the aphorism that the result of democracy is that the voters get the government they deserve.

Posted by Steve at December 6, 2007 10:10 AM

I wonder which desperate right wing nutjob pundit will be the first to wonder out loud if Bush's supposed ignorance of this info is proof that the intelligence community is just out to get him, and thus they deliberately kept it from him as they plotted. I'm guessing Dennis Miller, or maybe Fred Barnes.

Posted by Whistler Blue at December 6, 2007 12:39 PM

Check out Olberman's special comment at Crooks and Liars - Keith illustrates the subtle changes in language in W's speeches on the Iranian threat. Bush was well aware since at least August. Pathetic.

Posted by gumby at December 7, 2007 11:16 AM