Comments: Washington Post Continues Proud Tradition Of Never Getting Anything Right

Am I the only one bothered by a map of the area? It is a patchwork of Israeli and Palestinian areas. It's an obvious blueprint for continued conflict.

There must be strategic areas each want to control, but they must have separation if any peace is ultimately possible.

Am I being quite naïve? I hope not.

Posted by SPIIDERWEBâ„¢ at March 27, 2007 12:02 PM

What map?

Posted by buermann at March 27, 2007 02:14 PM

"Under the plan, Arab nations would recognize Israel if it gave up land occupied after the 1967 Middle East war" . . .
That is the land which the United Nations was going to make into the state of Palestine in 1948, except it was overrun by the united armies of all the adjacent Arab countries, and haphazardly annexed to the Kingdom of (formerly "Trans-") Jordan.
And the refugees, regardless of who they were fleeing, were corralled into wretched overcrowded camps by the same pan-Arab army.

"Israel's 1967 borders" is in the same category of If you meet anyone who tells you this, you should ignore everything they say in the future. The first time Israel had an actual border, instead of cease-fire lines, was in 1978, after Sadat made peace (peace be upon him/his memory for a blessing).

(Disclaimer: I am not "excusing" or overlooking any of the abhorrent behaviors and sophistries of any faction. Among the many things which could be said, I am addressing only one particular falsehood.)

Posted by Neil in Chicago at March 27, 2007 07:06 PM

""Israel's 1967 borders" is in the same category of If you meet anyone who tells you this, you should ignore everything they say in the future. "

Convenient for me in my more solipsistic moments. Since virtually everyone says this, I can ignore everyone.

Does anything follow from this point you're making, Neil? Like, for instance, that Israel therefore has the right to take some of that land it occupied post-1967? I wouldn't care where Israel draws its borders, frankly, so long as they don't drive Arabs outside them and give everyone inside equal rights. They can go clear to the Tigris and Euphrates under those conditions, if they like.

Posted by Donald Johnson at March 27, 2007 10:07 PM

That is the land which the United Nations was going to make into the state of Palestine in 1948...

Actually, no. It's less than a half of the land which the United Nations was going to make into the state of Palestine in 1947.

1947 UN partition gave 45% of Palestine to the indigenous population, while the 1967 border only leaves them 22%.

If you're really interested, it shouldn't be too hard to research the subject and find maps on the internet, Neil in Chicago.

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