Comments: The Significance Of Frank Gaffney

I don't know, he has a nice, shy smile; the face you know you can trust. Much like Mr. Ahmadinejad. Man, I'm torn here.

Posted by abb1 at February 21, 2007 02:47 AM

On the one hand, you have these assertions from Gaffney; on the other, the passages you selectively quote from the ISG. Isn't this just another case of he said, she said? The mystery deepens. We may never know for sure.

Posted by Freddy el Desfibradddoro at February 21, 2007 08:12 AM

and to place the products of those lines into aerosol cans and perfume sprayers for shipment to the United States and Europe

Methinks someone watched Batman too many times.

Posted by at February 21, 2007 08:57 AM

Oops. The Batman comment is by me. (Of course the only reason I noticed the odd similarity is because I've watched it too many times too.) This also partly explains those post-invasion playing cards, just not the bit where Saddam Hussein was the ace of spades.

Posted by fluxisrad at February 21, 2007 09:40 AM

Just the kind of guy a Professional Journalist™ would decide it'd be fun to have a beer with.

Instead of, you know, examining what he says and finding out that he made it up, and like that. What's it called? Reporting?

With kind regards,
Dog, etc.
dog knows i tried

Posted by Ghost of Joe Liebling's Dog at February 21, 2007 10:24 AM

actually, it's not batman, it's lord of the rings.

i just watched 'return of the king a couple days ago and the whole way through i couldn't help thinking this is the kind of movie that a few people are taking way too seriously. the enemy is the ultimate evil, you can see it in their eyes, their actions, their hearts. it's clear that if they are not stopped, we will live as slaves and/or die. the good guys are so undeniably virtuous it's nauseating. you can see it in their eyes and actions, hear it in the s-l-o-w, d-r-a-w-l-i-n-g t-r-u-t-h that emanates in slow motion from their mouths, feel it in their hearts so hard it feels like you will be crushed by it. this is the battle of battles, and like all battle of battles it goes on and on and on.....
the problem is that it just looks so damn cool, i'm almost ready to go out and, well, do something, man.

so bush is aragorn, saddam is the nazgul, which means bush has been hiding more than the truth of his military career, and ahmadinejad is...no, wait, saddam must have been saruman, so that means that ahmadinejad is the nazgull, but then who's the all seeing eye? what if bush wants to kill god? boy, that won't go over well with the base.

this is so complicated i'm glad you've got an entire administration of people working to put the pieces together.
good luck!

Posted by rey at February 21, 2007 11:08 AM

these people need to seriously lay off the sauce

Posted by Frederick at February 21, 2007 02:41 PM


The late Jude Wanniski had the dubious pleasure of working with Don Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, and Frank Gaffney. (Whew!) He likened Rummy to a fairly intelligent attack dog and Wolfowitz to a not-so-bright attack dog. Gaffney he likened to a stupid attack dog, one who would hear the rustling of leaves in the wind and then snap and bite at the closest thing to him.

Posted by Bob Weber at February 21, 2007 06:00 PM

The guy on the right I would buy a used car from, the guy in the middle looks like the guy I chased out the back door of my house the other night, and the guy on the left in the snappy uniform reminds me of my grandfather.

Posted by at February 21, 2007 07:48 PM

maybe the neocons doubt the veracity of Lincoln's dictum about not being able to fool all the people all the time, and Gaffney's just doing his part to encourage the rest of us to see it their way.

Posted by Jonathan Versen at February 21, 2007 09:40 PM

I remember that perfume bottle story. The news even illustraded it with a bunch of bottles. As has been said a million times before it was apparently to much to ask that people whose only job is to evaluate and find information do just that. In conclusion, fuck journalism.

Posted by Non nato at February 21, 2007 11:36 PM

Here's what the ISG found about that Batman-like perfume bottle story:

A former IIS officer claimed that the M16 directorate had a plan to produce and weaponize nitrogen mustard in rifle grenades, and a plan to bottle Sarin and sulfur mustard in perfume sprayers and medicine bottles which they would ship to the United States and Europe. The source claimed that they could not implement the plan because chemicals to produce the CW agents were unavailable.

Gaffney, you're doing a heckuva job!

Posted by Dave at February 22, 2007 08:47 AM

Well done, Mr. Schwarz...and thank you!

You have performed a great service in support of reality. Too bad it was necessary.

Posted by The Reality Kid at February 22, 2007 09:22 AM

Great post, Jonathan. By far the most definitive work to date (besides the Duelfer Report itself, of course) debunking this right-wing fantasy.

This might be the funniest line I've read all year:

"It's as if Gaffney were defending Feith from charges of wife-beating by punching his own wife in the face."

Posted by SilentPatriot at February 22, 2007 11:42 AM

Great post!

A little detail needs correction: Charles Kupperman, a board member of Gaffney's organization, does not work for Boeing (retired in July 2006).

I see that you got this mistaken info from Gaffney's website:
http://centerforsecuritypolicy.org/Home.aspx?CategoryID=47&SubCategoryID=51

which makes it all the more curious: one can't even trust that the info that Gaffney provides on his own board members is going to be accurate.

You mention that CSP is funded with tax-deductible donations from right wing foundations. How can such an overtly political outfit qualify for tax-deductible status? What are the IRS rules on this--and is there anything that citizens can do to stir the IRS to look at this?

Posted by Alex at February 22, 2007 01:03 PM

(One thing we can learn from the forms is that CSP is basically Gaffney alone. His 2004 salary was $272,850. The rest of the expenses were for rent, events, a few consultants, etc.)

This shouldn't be surprising: it's the M.O. of those one-man-and-a-fax wingnut operations. Compare Bill Donohue and his Catholic League, of recent bloviating notoriety.

It's about time to discover this network, to rip the phrase from Horowitz. How many so-called 'foundations' and 'think-tanks' are the personal tax shelters of individuals or small groups, funded with wingnut welfare dollars?

It's time for some enterprising bloggers to pore through the Form 990s of these people: although you won't be able to tell where the money's coming from, you'll be able to see the logrolling of advisory boards. (Something along the lines of 'theyrule.net'.)

Posted by pseudonymous in nc at February 22, 2007 01:35 PM

What happened to [the stockpiles] is a mystery they weren't able to explain... There is evidence they were removed across the border into Syria.

Gaffney must not have gotten the latest Feith-Based Anonymous Special Intelligence Memo, in which it is clearly and indisputably proven that Saddam shipped all of his chemical and biological weapons to Iran in exchange for a special shipment of high-tech custom made Iranian force-projecting IEDs to be used in the event of a US liberation.

Posted by Charles at February 22, 2007 01:45 PM

It is humiliating to listen to and read so many of today's journalists, because the arrogance and disrespect for the people of this country is like a looming presence of malevolent ignornance perpetrated by insider propaganda, each one believing that it is better to sell out their fellow Americans to the rich and influential than it is to serve the concepts of freedom and equal opportunity. In other words, they traitors to the American dream that they are turning into the American nightmare.

I know that my worst fears about where the barbarians and brutes are taking this country are well founded. The truly disturbing idea about journalists, scientists, government officials and administrators, artists, and intellectuals selling out Americans is not that they are doing it, because there have always been such scum, but that there are so many of them, and that they did it so fast. It would lead one to believe that all that they care about are themselves.

Forget the advancement of civilization, forget the idea of an evolving view of mankind, forget about living in peace that is governed with reason, forget about compassion and kindness, forget about walking softly and carrying a big stick - the jerks with the big stick are clubbing seals and everything else they can get away with doing it to. And all to satisfy greed and paranoia.

Their greatest fear is that one day the "sleeping giant" will wake-up to what a beating they have been taking from the greedy, and will be very angry.

Posted by elephty at February 22, 2007 01:47 PM

"On the one hand, you have these assertions from Gaffney; on the other, the passages you selectively quote from the ISG"
-Freddy

I dont know whether to take this seriously or not, but why don't you click the link to the _entire_ report that he linked to? He also linked to all relevant sections as he quoted the,

What was he to do if not quote selectively? Quote the whole report?

Tell me you weren't serious..;)

Posted by Da Jay Swizzle at February 22, 2007 02:21 PM

"My suspicion is the missing WMD went to Transnistria (Rumania), and those six million missing Jews are all in Syria."

This is about as likely as Gaffney ever being right about anything.

What is odd is the fact that Gaffney's statements diverge even from admissions by the Bush Administration, itself. Remember when Bush actually admitted that they were wrong about the WMD's? I guess Gaffney didn't get the memo. The most frightening thing about all of this is that there are "journalists" in this country who are farther to the right and less in tune with reality than the Bush Administration. I was previously unaware that that was even possible.

Posted by Kristin at February 22, 2007 03:03 PM

The fisking was nice, but I didn't even have to read that part. Anyone who insists, that many times that they're "not making things up" and that whatever assertion they're trying to make is "a fact" is lying. Period.

See, Mister Gaffney, the secret to being an accomplished liar, instead of just a little neocon shitweasel, is that you have to be self-confident. Smooth. Practiced in front of a mirror so you can watch out for tics and tells. That kind of thing. It can be done, but not by people stupid enough to still believe that Hussein had WMDs.

Posted by Interrobang at February 22, 2007 03:15 PM

"Stupidity is no excuse for not thinking." Stanislaus J. Lec

p.s. Gaffney demonstrates (you know, as in geometry) that one can be both an accomplished liar and a little neocon shitweasel.

Posted by ViniloSuave at February 22, 2007 07:21 PM

>journalists,
Check
>scientists,
Not so much
>government officials
Check
>government administrators
Check
But for both of these, there are opposing forces (which have been weak for far too long).
>artists, and
Huh? You mean like the director of "24"? Or what?
>intellectuals
You mean "pundits", right? These people are parsers of words, not assessors of ideas.

>selling out Americans
Is that like a take-out?
But really, what do you mean? Betraying Americans?
Which Americans do you mean? Americans are not a homogeneous lump.

Posted by me at February 23, 2007 02:31 AM

Excellent post, Mr. Schwarz! I've struggled with this kind of lunacy myself, when I discuss the issue of Saddam's supposed WMDs with some wingnuts. One particular blog where the people are completely immersed in this nonsense is www.floppingaces.net. Not only were they trumpeting these ridiculous claims, but they were also foaming at the mouth over those stupid unvetted Iraqi documents that our fine Republican Senators wanted to release to the public, which then oddly enough ended up containing nuclear secrets and so had to be removed from the net. Nice job, "patriots"! It's really a very strange alternative reality.

Posted by Reasic at February 23, 2007 08:59 AM